Q.”If the foundations are destroyed, what shall the righteous do?”
A.First? They may eventually DECIDE to Emerge FROM Legalistic /smug /WE centered Church www.emergefromchurch.org
This article was first printed Aug 20, 2014 www.dfwleaderfllowship.org
FIRST PART: WAS JESUS ALWAYS”SWEET BABY JESUS?”
HOW WOULD THE CHURCH REACT TO JESUS TOSSING OVER THE MONEY MAKER’S TABLES TODAY?
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WHAT WOULD LEADER JESUS DO?..meaning when caught in the MIDST of varying intensities of degrees ever in the midst of multidirectional, life threatening, firey trials….
AND of course..all of this continually (and up to this present ongoing day) repeatedly examine MY OWN inner , outer leader reactions….
YET upon repeatedly experiencing doctrinal fruit, mixed with ministry fallout, as a new vast pioneering region, and when, upon 3 different ministry “relationship” trusting occasions, this non novice, formerly very reserved,even apostolically timid Ministry SHE.. was forced into examining the area leader MINISTRY DOCTRINES due to that.
DUE TO THAT APOSTOLIC QUESTION ARISES:
WHEN JESUS CHRIST sets His foot back on earth, WHO /WHAT would HE say actually represented the SPIRITUAL REMAINING LEADER, DOCTRINAL, COMMUNITY, RELATIONSHIP, CULTURAL TRUE FRUIT OF “ORGANIC” FIRST CHURCH, NEW TESTAMENT, minus OT Levitical Legalism, minus Roman Western European aristocratic Patricianism, and HUMAN/MEDIA, POP SECULAR CULTURE “MIXTURE?”
ASIDE: I am willing to fully admit that I am not 100 percent sure that GOD would call ME, IFFM “wholly ORGANIC/BIBLE AUTHENTIC”
AND WHAT ABOUT YOU?
IN HINDSIGHT, it was only because of being completely immersed in all of this, it caused me to be forced to examine the SPIRITUAL AREA MINISTRY PRODUCED FRUITS..remaining or to be (one day) burned with fire.
I also felt extremely SORRY for those 5 fold ministers who plainly wanted acceptance, to feel powerful and probably way did deep down, at one time or another, truthfully, WHOLE HEARTEDLY attempt to model the true Christ.
BUT I was enormously aware of the negative AFFECTS on all of the GOOD PASTORS, MINISTRY OFFICES..as it was CONFUSING , meeting, discovering, being defrauded, by area SYNTHETIC versus AUTHENTIC.
THUS I prayed for the FUTURE BRIDE OF CHRIST ,the CHILDREN, the already TV/MEDIA, POP WORSHIP, PC MIXTURE CULTURE CONFUSED about THE TRUE IDENTITY OF and MEANING OF CHRIST FOLLOWING…as well as the Bible meaning for “BEING CALLED INTO THE MINISTRY” and “ROLE MODELING ” 5 fold offices..
MEANING…to leave a FUTURE ORGANIC TRUE PORTRAIT to the rising,future, upcoming (ecologically, organic minded) NEW GENERATIONS!
SO..in the realistic daylight..locked in the dying season of Pauline Prisons, feeling akin to a veritable Jane on the (love less) Isle of post Christian Plano….
And while searching out “fellowshipping with the saints” and “ministry like minded peers” it only served to cause me to prophetically encounter what I can not now not truthfully categorize among a REPEATED… VARIED, LEADERSHIP ENCOUNTERS OF RUDE,SELF SATISFIED KIND…
ALL of which began to descend upon me shortly after God began to tell me to take CHIEF APOSTLE some of the downloaded revelation He had given, and to make a suggestion to form a spiritual behind the leader scenes READINESS, PRAYER NETWORK..
However, doing that appeared to lay some tempestuous axe at the root of some yet to be specified old TREE..but i hindsight..what was diabolically intended to BLOCK ME to KILL ME COMPLETELY OFF..only served to remove ALL the former remaining FEAR and LEGALISM…from and removed entirely all NEED TO BE VIEWED AS IN “POPULAR MINISTRY.”
SHORT SYNOPSIS: shortly after I relocated and under went a Katrina Like life threatening, forever life altering, then become a traumatic, event.
WHEREUPON …..PROCEEDING TO SURF THE SENIOR MINISTRY DOCTRINAL WATERS..
PROPHETIC PONDERING“Where does “I am the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus” interfere with “Acts 5;1-5 “Days of Ananias and Sapphira (being held accountable) and apostolic Matthew 18:15-18 (going to directly up front minister confront)
I was attacked from the start by SYSTEMS..banking, legal,and then, quite a big shock…APOSTOLIC RELIGIOUS…each of whom (meaning ministerial were ONLY “Christ Follower “Senior Ministers”‘ who each and every human person, fell under the category of ministry style or brand…..??
AND ONE OF THE RUDEST AWAKENINGS EVER..was encountering a new breed of pastor, leader which I had never encountered before, even while in up and down the east coast for 25-30 years. (and if I did, it was never more than 2-3)
ACTUALLY the biggest CULTURE SHOCK was repeatedly discovering that the LAY OF THE FIVE FOLD OFFICE WORSHIP CULTURE was overly LACKING in the Proverbs 1:7 “HOLY FEAR OF THE LORD”
ASIDE TO PONDER:
IF the Bible says (Proverbs 1:7″ The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” THEN what if there is NO fear of the Lord in 5 fold ministry”
APPLYING LOGIC: The ABSENCE of the fear of the LORD is the beginning of_________???
SECONDLY(and due YOU believe that this next may have anything to DO WITH THAT missing FEAR OF THE LORD?”) I for the first time EVER encountered (over and over and over) PASTOR, MINISTER, RISING MINISTERS, WANNABE MINISTERS, who could fast talk, quote their Holy Bible, and name ever famous TV preacher, but then turn your back on them and they were inventively cagey, most of them accuser blame shifting with several, giving off the tainted fruit of being reprobate, adept duck and avoiders ,even appearing to be huge slippery con artists….
(BUT GOD and I KNOW HOW TO DWELL IN THE PSALM 91 SECRET PLACE, THE I KINGS 19:9 PROPHETIC CAVE OF ELIJAH and Father has quite a bit of hilarious HUMOR..along the Way, during and truly because of that period of time…God gave me www.AdventuresinBlameshifting.net)
WHO..if you Matthew 18:15 proceeded to try to solve things according to the BIBLE..they would MISPERCEIVE THEM AS ABOVE GOD”S WRITTEN WORD..and and intentionally avoid, double talk and twist scripture, to BLAME SHIFT BACK in order to AVOID being HELD LEADER RESPONSIBLE
THE FOLLOWING IS A TRUE TALE:
NOTE: while this was meant to personally destroy me to block God’s major apostolic MISSION, in the happy hindsight of way past time..it is now presented as a PROPHETIC CALL to walk through to experience what MANY REAL HUMAN PERSONS also are forced to interact with..a PRIMARY BUSINESS BUILDING SENIOR MINISTER RELIGIOUS MONEY MAKING SYSTEM in which all Bible relationships, even the FIRST LOVE RELATIONSHIP APART WITH THE HOLY LORD, are deemed SECONDARY.**
** See MENU above to see what IFFM Ministry names as THE 9 ONGOING BIBLE RELATIONSHIPS
REALISTIC VIEW OF WHAT actually goes on under the God Name of “CHRIST FOLLOWING” and “BEING IN THE FIVE FOLD MINISTRY”
Viewed PROPHETICALLY to depict that if THIS happened, ongoing happens to ONE human person, submitted believer, fellow senior pastor, alien, stranger, new visitor, newbie Godly WOMAN…then you KNOW that this is just ONE testimony of perhaps MANY HUNDREDS..if not 1000′s..
AND it also started examining IS THERE A FALLING AWAY or A RUNNING AWAY Bible COMMANDED in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 Pauline described” Lovers of themSELVES” ACCUSER Leadership?
EMERGE FROM CHURCH www.emergefromchurch.org
AND I declare this as a BELIEVER, APOSTOLIC WOMAN, DIVORCED, SINGLE, PASTOR, NEWBIE, ELDER, ..only that the leading of the Lord on behalf of any former, FUTURE 5 fold office predatory very possible victimization.
ALERT, GOD IS NOT MOCKED.
AND this is when the DOCTRINAL INVESTIGATION (Noble Berean Apostle Paul Style) idea, first surfaced….BECAUSE…
THE BECAUSE WAS …WHEN I repeatedly attempted to Matthew 18:15 “up front, respectfully, Bible confront” any local fellow “meaning of this particular doctrinal BRAND”..I would meet a brick wall.
EXAMPLE (one of eventually 3) ONE particular grass roots sr pastor, who had made off with a digital stand up piano, and hid from me to avoid bringing it back.
And following my repeated attempts to get him to GODLY MINISTER MAN UP..and he still ducked to hide…being naive enough to believe that his oversight (“professional senior ministry fellowship group”) would then be the next step to the moral authority plate to honor, abide by and submit to Matthew 18:15-18.
THE long forgotten (maybe intentionally avoided?) MATTHEW 18:15-18 is notoriously absent, even on on the east coast, but mostly in Big I, Little You “genuflecting to protocol/hierarchy” wannabe famous ministry.
HOWEVER, because MATTHEW 18:15-18 appears to be removed from most of this particular APOSTOLIC BRAND of ministry, one must wonder if they are fashioning their own BIBLE, akin to the famous former US PRESIDENT THOMAS JEFFERSON presidential personal BIBLE, (He only published the Bible verses HE chose to yield to IN HIS “THOMAS JEFFERSON (DEIST) BIBLE)
YET just in case it slipped from their minds, the nonconfused writer will PARAPHRASE IT (Google Search www.BibleGateway.com for entire verse in KJV)
PARAPHRASE: If /when a CHRISTIAN brother or sister, does something against you, rips you off, believes that they’ve spied you participating in a particular sin, spies you from far off, acting perhaps to happy and free, which makes some of them upset that YOU are not BOUND under the OT legalistic LAW like they are which then makes them BURDENED to determine IF YOU are LEVITICALLY UNDER the LAW of “Being submissive, an official member of a local Church,
…..AND/ OR if you if they perceive YOU, a real woman, as “a OT female who is NOT COVERED””and thereby “IN REBELLIONS” and “NOT SUBMITTED”’then not matter HOW BIG they believe their OFFICE POSITION is, they still must SUBMIT properly to GOD’S AUTHORITY “HIS HOLY WORD” which in this case is the non elitist apostolic MATTHEW 18:15-18
MEANING….that THEY are Holy Bible required to politely to phone you up, politely, and make an official ministry leader appointment to (at first) ONE TO ONE IN PRIVATE respectfully confront you.
APOSTOLIC LEADER: one to one, to upfront ,Tough Love, up front firmly, respectfully confront your Christian Brother, Sister, and he/she avoids, refuses, runs away and refuses..
…..then YOU are to go enlist the help of another to then go back to practice apostolic Bible Protocol (presumably included in God’s Whole Counsel) and along with THEM hold him/her directly accountable.
SO that is why I went to their local peer oversight, who and asked him if he would assist me, in Bible confronting. Also at this time I was still a newbie in the vast widespread area, had no family nearby, and was in deep grief, having just lost my marriage.
ONE recalls” God sends many angels unaware” and ‘What ever you do to any other, you do unto ME” plus..one would automatically presume that SR PASTORS would have empathy, compassion plus all submit to ALL of God’s Holy Bible AUthority..and NOT ONLY the FUN, HAPPY PARTS that they preferred.
BUT I was in for a big NEWBIE AWAKENING..it was then I first became aware of the PC “self justifying” “avoiding to conserve personal leader time and perhaps energy” and the dullness of pioneering leader PERCEPTION..not to mention the TWISTING OF HOLY BIBLE SCRIPTURE to prove that they were RIGHT and that everyone else was IN THE WRONG.
THUS when I asked the local (next highest in ministry group chain of command) to “please go help me confront as this “senior office” was invited to repeated fellowship gatherings, on their official letter head stationary, emails…and due to the fact that I was a area newbie, if HE was repeatedly invited and I was and also all of the many OTHERS,,than SURELY they must have checked him OUT..and even if not, THEY should feel somewhat responsible for at least going to BIBLE UPFRONT CONFRONT.
WHICH they would not. INSTEAD of accepting, I only received an email, accusing me of “being unloving ,(and it came across as “You’re not being SWEET like BABY JESUS..unconditionally forgiving, allowing him to make off with a $1200.00 digital ministry Korg piano…and in doing so null and voiding MATTHEW 18:15-15…
The writer admonished to to forgive him..but refused to accept any obligation to help me obey MATTHEW 18;15-18. This “MAN OF GOD” also refuse to respect my office, a fellow sr pastor, peer, CHRISTIAN..and took the low road, the easy route..by choosing NOT to rise up,to man up,…
PLUS it even made his ministry “professional fellowship” as well as his own leadership position in that group, look emotionally and morally weak.
AND TRULY,I had zero problem with UNFORGIVENESS, I had a BIG REAL PROBLEM with avoidance, hiding, ducking, accuser blame shifting which are EMOTIONALLY DISHONEST, WEAK and SELF PRESERVING (SELF CENTERED LEADERSHIP)
AND I also had a big DOCTRINAL ISSUE with GREASY AVOIDING ENTITLED GRACE when it was compared with ACTS 5:1-11 GOD HOLDING ANANIAS AND SAPPHIRA DIRECTLY ACCOUNTABLE.’
AND AFTER THAT I corresponded directly to the national headquarters, who also AVOIDED, REFUSE TO RESPOND. AND I even wrote to share that about the comments that the FIRST (weak) oversight had stated VIA EMAIL:
Well, you need to just forgive him. We have had some other people also complain about this brother…”
SO I realistically thought BIG DUH. “YOU mean that YOU ALL have repeatedly invited HIM to sit at OUT TABLES for the last 8 months, when YOU ALL KNEW that he was reprobate, prone to defraud and YET YOU ALL invited HIM using PROFESSIONAL LETTER HEAD EMAIL STATIONARY…and INVITED HIM TO COME..time after time KNOWINGLY?:
Actually it made me feel like a PROPHET whom God was using to WARN THEM about how another might also be victimized by this same charismatic charlatan, only to SUE ALL OF THEM..which I never yet chose to do.
I ALSO felt GOD tell me that they LAX, SLOPPY AGAPE, SO WEAK(meaning at both very local, national chain of command leader levels, might eventually cause HAVOC to hit the INNOCENT TOP COVERING OVERSIGHT who never knew anything that the Lower levels were then doing. AS he was TOO FAMOUS.
I write this to put forth a COVERING OF YOUR TOP MOST LEADER (SOMBER ALERT) PROPHETIC PRINCIPAL.
AND later, after repeatedly bumping into this same type of PRIMARILY CHARISMATIC VULTURE WORSHIP CULTURE, hardened leader style religious group..and as they ducked, avoided, manipulated Bible Scripture to get their own way,and then accused ME of being UNLOVING and implied NOT SWEET LIKE BABY JESUS…I pondered…what is in FLOWING AMIDST THESE DOCTRINAL WATERS?
LEADERSHIP ASKED TO PONDER: WHEN would God direct us to model SWEET BABY JESUS..to forgive unconditionally,to turn the other cheek?
BUT WHEN would God’s Spirit lead us to model MATURE GROWN MAN JESUS by willing to risk our good spotless ministry, personal reputation by being willing to RISE UP, to STAND UP and to SPEAK UP and thereby “tilt a few ministry sacred cows” and even apostolicaly, spiritually, doctrinally, positionally… TURN OVER a few money maker’s religious Business System procuring tables?
PART 2:MY OWN SENIOR PIONEERING MINISTRY OVER ALL THEORY
IF JESUS CHRIST walked in and tossed over the temple money makers tables in over many, mostly at ease, Ministry Houses today….
…and entered much of the modern PC ministry, leader correctness,much other people pleasing, intermingled with TV /media, pop psychology , Disney fantasy, OT Levitical Patriarchal Legalism, among proud aristocratic WE Roman Patricianism religious,and quick fast, time /emotional energy saving FIXES now apply ministry major legalistic STEREOTYPES… one is amazed..and once again apostolically begins to MARVEL at what flows inside this type of area’s DOCTRINAL WATERS.
PART TWO AFTER: THE WRITER PONDERS WHAT WOULD THEY DO IF JESUS TOSSED OVER A FEW MONEY MAKERS TABLES RIGHT NOW?
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